May 17, 2008

Fountain Avenue Video Footage

Priya Ghosh '09 sends in footage from Thursday night. You can see the pepper-gas-ball gun in action at 1:52-2:10ish, firing in a semicircle. Also, the K9 Units are visible though their actions are somewhat obscured by the lighting. This all took place approx 35 minutes after the arrival of cruisers, and some time after the initial volley of teargas and pepper-gas-ball things.


Everyone keep in mind that there are still A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WENT ON.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

I hope all the footage that eventually turns up doesn't show such an unflattering view of the students as does this video...

Anonymous said...

That looks really frightening.

Anonymous said...

anon 6:26

yes, because it is quite unflattering to get angry at being violently attacked for being a innocent bystander.

Anonymous said...

Did this camera not have nightshot?

Anonymous said...

Some posters are alluding to the fact that Fountain Avenue is Wesleyan property. It is in fact not. It is a public street.

Anonymous said...

the video has been removed

Anonymous said...

lol no it hasnt

Anonymous said...

7:14: it's all wes students though

Anonymous said...

the street is public property but the houses and yards aren't.. that's why there's the issue with the students in the street.

also, is that a girl crying i hear in the background?

Anonymous said...

and by public i mean government owned. that shit belongs to the cops

Anonymous said...

@8:54... Yes, there were many, many people crying in the street during it. Some of it angry, most of them just sad.

Anonymous said...

thats really a scary video.

Anonymous said...

the cops had jurisdiction to enforce on front lawns and sidewalks as well because wesleyan's p-safe called them. because wesleyan is a private institution and their own security force could not handle the situation and thus called upon the mtown police, the police were doing their job by responding to the situation and enforcing on the street. any action that carried over onto private property is not illegal, however, as wesleyan's psafe authorized the use of police force on their territory.

Peter said...

Moreover, the cops had every right to be there because of the sneaky concept known as probable cause

Anonymous said...

Probable cause is not a concept it's a fact.

johnwesley said...

no, it's an allegation subject to proof.

Anonymous said...

no, it's a concept. an instance of probable cause, like "you smell like booze," for example, would be a fact.

Anonymous said...

and by fact i do mean allegation subject to proof

Anonymous said...

I was referring that probable cause in itself is a fact of law that is in the Constitution; not a concept. You’re arguing the merit of a particular instance of probable cause.

Anonymous said...

How stupid are these students who are being repeatedly told "Get out of here now!" by police and challenging the cops? I mean what planet are these kids from? Tell me what city ANYWHERE that this is allowed? I've lived in NYC, LA and London and cops in all 3 places would've arrested a lot more than 5 people for this kid of nonsense after being told to disperse.

Anonymous said...

Police in NYC, LA, and London also don't show up to break up non-destructive parties.

Adam said...

This is worse filming than cloverfield.

Anonymous said...

To the 12:02 ranter: this video is very misleading. I agree, in the video students are acting totally out of line. However, this video begins only AFTER students had been opened fire upon (students who were walking AWAY, and people picking their friends up off the street). After people ran away and were tasered, pepper sprayed, mauled etc, then they came back after firing stopped to find out why that just happened. This entire video was a post-assault reaction, NOT the temperament of the students the entire rest of the night.

Anonymous said...

At least now we know where all the idiots from UCONN's Spring Weekend went.

Anonymous said...

yes the cops may technically have 'jurisdiction' or whatnot to do whatever they want on fountain because the street is technically government property. but clearly it is not ACCEPTABLE that they can show up and do what they did at any time to any one. so please let us drop this fountain is wes-owned / fountain is not wes-owned debate which doesnt even address the problem.

Anonymous said...

Haha are you serious? "May technically have 'jurisdiction'" and "technically government property?" You sound as if the cops were merely twisting the law to punish some unruly students. The kids were in the road, P-Safe called the cops, the kids were being jerks so the cops made them leave. I would have some sympathy if beer bottles were not thrown, however, they were. Also, did anyone at this "party" actually expect the cops to be like "OK, well the kids win. Let's go home!" Why didn't everyone just move the party somewhere else? It's not like this is the first time that cops have been to Fountain/Pine/Warren.

Anonymous said...

Posts 12:02am and 9:27am -- same poster?

Anonymous said...

"Also, did anyone at this "party" actually expect the cops to be like "OK, well the kids win."

The kids did win. Police left without dispersing the party.

Anonymous said...

to 12:25- there was no where else to move the party. this congregation in the street was because psafe had already broken up a large party in a backyard, as well as every single other party on the street.

Anonymous said...

As I understand, there was a beer bottle thrown when the cops first arrived, but then they stood around for 45 minutes before starting the attack. There was nothing directly preceding the attack that would have caused it. This is what I understand from different accounts, please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I don't think one beer bottle condemns a whole crowd.

Anonymous said...

Even MPD has acknowledged that it was not minimal force. it was EXTREME FORCE. their justification is that about 150 Wesleyan students were simply out of control.

One of the 5 students arrested approached police with his hands raised in the air, asking them to stop beating his friend. He was tasered and fell to the ground. Still scarred.

It is clear to me that Middletown Police have never had to deal with the serious problems that a true city police-force faces on a daily basis. They simply don't understand what a substantial threat is. I know many students were acting bratty singing Wesleyan cheers and BOO-ing their party being broken up, but give me a break, that would be any one of your responses at age 21. They were in no way a threat. If the officers of the MPD lived in a real city with real crime and real consequences, maybe they would have reacted differently. Maybe they would have told PSAFE to deal with their own bratty children, which they are more than equipped to handle--- without tasers, rubber bullets, police dogs, and tear gas.

Anonymous said...

8:52pm is the guy who is going to sue our school for a lot of money.

tuition is too high to begin with, especially when it's not being used correctly (psafe)

Anonymous said...

@ 12:17 here here. Honestly, 40k a year doesn't buy even the most basic protection from pathetic blackshirt thuggery?